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Tesla Model S Has Almost Twice The EPA Range Of Porsche Taycan — 373 Miles vs 201 Miles

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Published on December 12th, 2019 |

by Dr. Maximilian Holland

Tesla Model S Has Almost Twice The EPA Range Of Porsche Taycan — 373 Miles vs 201 Miles

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December 12th, 2019 by Dr. Maximilian Holland

The Porsche Taycan Turbo has received its official EPA range rating, achieving a very disappointing 201 miles. This is a significantly lower range than EVs costing a quarter of the price, and just over half the range of the base Tesla Model S. It’s yet more proof that engineering prowess in the era of gas vehicles is no guarantee of success in the age of EVs.

Let’s compare the Taycan’s EPA range with the figures achieved by popular EVs in the US market:

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Click on the chart to enlarge. We can see that the Taycan Turbo, priced from $150,900, has the lowest driving range of any new EV released in the last couple of years. It’s even substantially lower than many already-on-the-road EVs priced under $40,000 (Model 3 SR+, LEAF, Kona, and Bolt).

Let’s look at the Taycan’s performance comparison in terms of the cost (in US$ MSRP) per mile of EPA range:

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The Taycan Turbo is nowhere near as competitive as any other EV on cost per mile, being over double that of even the 2nd worst performer (the 2020 Audi e-tron). It’s also not far off triple the price per mile range of the (higher performing) Tesla Model S Performance, and over 4× that of the Tesla Model 3 Performance.

Porsche will argue that their buyers are not too concerned about pricing, instead value the sporty driving characteristics of the Taycan. Let’s hope they are right.

Porsche will also point to the “fast charging speeds” of the Taycan as a compensation for the relatively poor range. However, the only charging performance that matters in practice is miles gained over a given period of time, and with such modest overall range, the Taycan is somewhat hampered here.

Since the Taycan is not yet in any customers’ hands, we don’t have any real-world data on charging performance, but at the launch event, Porsche said that 5% to 80% charge can be recovered in 22½ minutes (in optimum conditions, on the optimum DC chargers). Calibrating to the new EPA data, that translates into ~151 miles added in 22½ minutes.

That’s decent, but not much more compelling than the considerably more affordable and slightly longer range Audi e-tron, which can add 138 miles in 25 minutes. It’s also substantially less compelling than the Tesla Model 3 Performance, which — even when starting from 10% rather than 5% — can regain ~210 miles (65% of EPA range) in just 20 minutes.

We don’t yet have good real-world charging data for the 2020 Tesla Model S Performance on optimal V3 Superchargers, but it will also very likely equal or exceed the Taycan’s miles-per-time charging performance.

Bear in mind that the Model S Performance also has nearly twice the range of the Taycan. In practical terms, you can drive for over 4 hours at highway speeds (70 ~ 75 mph) before any charging break is required. The Taycan can only manage around 2 hours and 25 minutes initial driving at these speeds before needing a break. Overall, that means that the Model S (and indeed any 2020 Tesla) is a significantly more capable long-distance vehicle than the Taycan Turbo.

In short, due to the poor efficiency of the powertrain, the Taycan’s charging performance is only “decent,” and not in fact outstanding. It is certainly not so compelling as to make up for the poor range that the Taycan gets per charge.

The Taycan does have undoubted strengths in the “driver’s car” feel that Porsche prides itself on, and that’s welcome. But, with just 201 miles of EPA range from a 93.4 kWh battery, the overall efficiency of the powertrain is undoubtedly disappointing and this will need to improve dramatically to become a compelling all-round vehicle. After all, that’s what Porsche’s EVs must ultimately become in the long run.

EV powertrains are a completely different beast to combustion powertrains, and so far we are not seeing any evidence that legacy automakers that have great engineering expertise in the older technology are necessarily able to transfer that prowess to the new technology. None are even close to the newcomer Tesla on powertrain efficiency.

Recent reports put the Taycan’s planned volume at around 20,000 units globally in 2020, which will be around 8% of Porsche’s overall annual sales volume (2018 global sales of 256,000). That’s still a higher EV share of their output than all or almost all other legacy automakers, for which Porsche deserves merit.

Have you ordered a Taycan, or are you thinking of ordering one? How do you feel about the 201 mile EPA range? Let us know in the comments.

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Tesla Model Y Is Touring In Europe For Tesla’s European Technicians

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December 12th, 2019 by Cynthia Shahan

With so much fascination around the eclectic, massive Cybertruck superhero, we almost forget that what some of us truly want is the now seemingly peaceful and placid Tesla Model Y. Softer around the corners, the Model Y offers the same high-tech software updates and is perfect for the growing green family — or, say, an interior designer who increasingly needs to walk the stylish-and-green tightrope while transporting bulky items for installations and shows.

As others have pointed out, the Tesla Model Y will be world’s safest crossover, and the quickest affordable crossover or SUV. It is a perfect family transporter.

Not long after news that Tesla Model Y production might start in Q1 2020 (really) — and following earlier news from Tesla that the Model Y is ahead of schedule — Morten Groves adds another useful news nugget:

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If you’re considering the Model 3 vs. Model Y instead of the Model Y vs. the Cybertruck, read that link from Vijay and this one on Iqtidar Ali’s insights.

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Hat tip and thanks once again to our valued friend Iqtidar Ali at X Auto.

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28,000 Tweets Helped Elon Musk Develop Tesla Cybertruck

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Published on December 9th, 2019 |

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28,000 Tweets Helped Elon Musk Develop Tesla Cybertruck

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December 9th, 2019 by Johnna Crider

In a heartfelt article written by Kristen Netten on Medium, she explains why the Cybertruck is the truck for a hero. When one thinks of a hero, we may think of police or firefighters or even our own personal heroes who have impacted our lives. Elon Musk is one of mine and is a hero to millions of people around the world for all the good he has done through his companies.

The article explains how 26,000 comments from the Twitter community about the Cybertruck helped Tesla create a truck that is fit for a hero.

It all started in June of 2018 when Elon Musk asked his followers what they would like to see in a truck. Kristen’s article also shows evidence that Elon Musk engaged in a bit of market research with this tweet.

You ask your customers what they want, and they tell you. This is exactly what happened in the case of the Cybertruck. Mike Maat replied to Elon saying that they wanted a flatbed with no wheel well humps. R-Dub said that a built-in bed cover that could roll out when needed would be great, and also that it would be “next level to have solar panels built into the bed cover.” Jeff Mueller brought up air suspension and suggested a heavy-duty air compressor to run air tools. Elon loved that idea and even replied saying that it was a great idea and that it made sense to add a utility port. He also said the truck would have a Tesla pneumatics system (which is why that makes sense).

NocturnusAnime created a list of features that Elon Musk implemented into the Cybertruck (look at the photo above). That list is:

300–500 mile range,
bed or camper shell lined with solar cells to help with regen,
front trunk alongside long bed option,
comfy/spacious crew cab for those in the back,
toolbox compartment in the bed that doubles as an ice chest, like the Nissan Frontier Titan has.

In her Medium article, Kristen sums up other things like off-road capabilities, on-road performance, the price, and how Elon saw the request to make it reasonably priced like the Model 3. Kristen also shows that the 2018 tweet asking for truck comments and recommendations wasn’t the first time Elon mentioned the truck. He also brought it up in 2017: “I promise that we will make a pickup truck right after the Model Y” — a promise that he, despite what critics have said about Elon keeping his promises, has kept.

Not only does Elon Musk keep his promises, but he listens to his customers. This shows that he values his customers. As an artist who sells jewelry made with minerals, I often get people who have entire stories to tell about a stone, or as to why a mineral means so much to them. My job in that aspect isn’t to make them jewelry, but to listen to their story. Stories are what keep us connected. Stories are part of what make us human. They help us learn, communicate, and be better people. People who listen to their customers show that they care. This is why so many people (including myself) admire Elon Musk.

Who is the hero Kristen was talking about in her article? It was definitely Elon Musk, a guy who happens to be a billionaire but isn’t shy about using his funds to help humanity. Whether it’s dropping everything because he was asked to help save lives or helping an American city upgrade their water system while our government sits back takes its time.

Even though Elon Musk was the hero Kristen had in mind when writing her article, Elon Musk isn’t the only hero. Many members of the Tesla community are also heroes. Whether it’s a group of people raising funds to send a care package to someone in need, donating toys to the Salvation Army, or pledging to plant millions of seed and trees, this community is a network of people to admire. It’s no wonder why we are all “obsessed with Tesla,” as Viv explains well in the tweet above.
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Tesla Reps Give Out Water To Those In Long Supercharger Lines During Thanksgiving Weekend

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Published on December 9th, 2019 |

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Tesla Reps Give Out Water To Those In Long Supercharger Lines During Thanksgiving Weekend

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Long Tesla Supercharger lines are just like long lines anywhere: frustrating. Especially if you have to wait in line longer than it takes to charge. This problem came around the Thanksgiving holiday season and may pop up again around Christmas and New Year’s. After all, many people travel for the holidays.

In part, this issue is due to the massive numbers of Model 3s being sold, and as more people drive electric, they will storm Superchargers instead of gas stations. Business Insider and Daily Mail were talking about the photos and videos of people in line and even stranded at Superchargers. Tesla seems to know this, and yes, it is a problem in which the best solution is just more Supercharging stations. However, Tesla isn’t only about solving problems for its customers — Tesla staff also want to make sure customers know they care.

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One Tesla owner reached out to me and told me that Tesla is aware of this issue and has even sent representatives to give out water to those in long Supercharger lines. She told me there were at least 25 cars waiting at around 3:00 pm that day. Water may seem trivial to some, but when you are frustrated and upset, a cool drink of water is refreshing and can help your body cope with the physical side effects of emotions such as anger and frustration.

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One of the main issues when it comes to Supercharging is speed. People have often told me that they would rather buy gas at a gas station where they can be “in and out” rather than sit around and wait for 45 minutes at a Supercharger. Tesla is already working on solving these problems with its V3 Superchargers, which significantly cut the charging times for its vehicles.

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Other complaints were about broken Superchargers. I have heard from several Tesla owners here that stalls 2A and 2B have been down for quite a while and have recently been repaired. Broken or not working charging stations would definitely contribute to longer lines during a holiday travel rush. However, Tesla Superchargers typically have a very high rate of uptime from research we’ve has seen over the years. You can read more about that in our 2018 EV driver report and 2019 EV driver report.
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