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Published on June 16th, 2019 |

by Zachary Shahan

Tesla On Track To Nail Its 2014 Forecast For 2020 Production & Sales

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June 16th, 2019 by Zachary Shahan

Preface: I first published this article in March 2018. A recent tweet highlighting a 2014 interview with Elon Musk reminded me of it, and since the piece is as relevant today as ever, I’m reposting it below with only minor changes. Enjoy!

I think it was April 2013 when we first got word that Tesla Model 3 production would probably start in 2017. Well, we didn’t have a name for the car yet, so we called it “Tesla’s fourth production model.” Tesla CEO Elon Musk was apparently hoping for a 2016 release, but quietly knew and told himself 2017 was more likely. His exact response to some questioning from Engadget on the matter: “Hopefully 2016, but I would say no later than 2017.”

In August 2013, we found out the name was probably going to be Tesla Model E. Tesla tried to trademark that name to have some fun with the spelling of its eventual vehicle lineup (S-E-X-Y). However, Ford apparently had the trademark “Model E” and didn’t want to give it to Tesla, so Tesla later changed the name to Tesla Model ☰ (aka Tesla Model 3).

What’s interesting to me here is that the statement the car would be in production by 2017 was accurate even though that was long before the car was even named Model 3.

Furthermore, for all the hype of the Model 3 being delayed, look, production actually began on the Model 3 within the timeframe Elon estimated way back in 2013.

I think the 2017 estimate was mentioned by Elon again in the following year, but I’m not finding any reference to that in our archives.

In late November 2014, I polled our readers about the 2017 production target for the Tesla Model 3. The target at that time didn’t include any forecast for the number of cars produced — just that production on the Model 3 would start by the end of 2017. The majority (62.5%) of our Tesla enthusiast/fanboy readership responded that they didn’t think the Model 3 would arrive in 2017. (Note, in case you missed it: the Model 3 did arrive in 2017.)

By the way, in October or early November 2014, Jerome Guillen (then Tesla’s “Chief Designer,” then head of the Tesla Semi project, and now Tesla President of Automotive) stated that Tesla was aiming to produce 500,000 cars/year by 2020. Presumably, if people thought the Model 3 wouldn’t arrive on time, they also thought the 500,000 cars/year by 2020 goal was unrealistic, but we didn’t poll that. Tesla later moved up the 500,000 by 2020 goal to a goal of 500,000/year by 2018 (in response to massive consumer demand for the Model 3). Even though this stretch goal wasn’t achieved, the 500,000 cars/year by 2020 goal still seems like a good possibility.

As a side note: We heard rumor in June 2015 that the Model 3 would actually have a range of 250 miles per charge, not simply the promised 200 miles. That was a big rumor, and we weren’t sure whether to get excited or be skeptical. As it turns out, the base Model 3’s EPA-rated range is 220 miles, the most popular trim, model 3 Standard Range Plus, has a range of 240 miles, and the Model 3 Long Range has 310 miles of range.

In August 2015, these were some of my notes from a Tesla quarterly shareholder report:

The Model 3 design will be revealed in the first quarter of 2016. (Woohoo!)
First deliveries are still expected in late 2017.
Basically, the 3 is still on schedule, but there’s not much more to say at this point.
Tesla thinks it is still on track for 500,000 cars a year by 2020, and that it might even go beyond that. 500,000 is based on Fremont factory production capacity, but Tesla may localize production in some places in 3–5 years. (Update: We now have the Chinese Tesla Gigafactory rapidly moving toward completion.)

Again — first deliveries did occur in 2017. Actually, first deliveries came in the middle of 2017, not the end of 2017. However, it’s true that first deliveries to non-staff customers came in late 2017.

Now, I would also note here that Elon never claimed mass production would begin right off the bat. Anyone familiar with ramping up production of a new vehicle would know that’s not how it would happen. Taking that into account, start of production in the middle of 2017 and slowly ramping that up (with hiccups) through the end of 2017 and beginning of 2018 was actually ahead of the schedule we presumed back in 2015.

And, again, if you look at our 2014 poll, even bullish Tesla fans largely didn’t expect Tesla to get the Model 3 into production in 2017. (Context, Sherlock, context.)

I’ve got another “by the way” note for you. In late 2015, Elon stated: “And with the (Tesla) Model 3 and various iterations on that platform, I’m really confident that we can do, you know, another 300,000 or 400,000 cars per year.” That implies that Elon thought annual demand and production of the Model 3 and Model Y (at least) would total 300,000–400,000 units per year (combined).

Mr. Musk’s 2016 view on that topic was that he expected demand for the Model 3 and Model Y to be approximately 500,000–1,000,000 units a year each — which implies 1–2 million units a year combined. I haven’t seem him change course on that general expectation.

In other words, Elon’s 2015 timeline for the Model 3 turned out to be essentially accurate but he was drastically underestimating demand compared to today’s expectations. (Sound familiar?)

When did the mid-2017 start of production target first come into play? On May 4, 2016, Elon hesitantly shared the accelerated target. You could tell before he said it that he didn’t really want to share the dates, but my guess is he figured the word would get out anyway (or he was just trying too hard to explain how the tofu is made). He unveiled that the official Tesla target for start of production was July 1, 2017, but he emphasized that the target was for suppliers just to try to get them to deliver in a reasonable time frame. The realistic target for actual beginning of production remained late in 2017.

As it turned out, in the beginning of 2017, everything seemed to actually be on schedule for start of production in July 2017. It was shocking. Most people didn’t believe it. Hardcore critics still claimed Model 3 production wouldn’t start until 2019 or 2020 or something like that.

No, volume production didn’t start in the summer or ’17, but production of the Model 3 did indeed start. By that time, of course, many a skeptic, “very serious analysts,” and naysayers dropped their claims of Tesla being unable to produce the Model 3. They stopped stating with 100% certainty that it would be years before the Model 3 went into production, if it ever did. They dropped their claims that there was no way Tesla would hit its targeted “end of 2017” start of production. Nope, the goal posts had moved.

And in the second half of 2017, it finally happened. Tesla finally fell behind on some of its stated production targets for the Model 3. Bottlenecks with battery production in particular — which Elon Musk admitted was ironic and presumably due to misplaced complacency — slowed down Tesla’s Model 3 production ramp. Perhaps other bottlenecks are at play as well, but we haven’t really heard of anything else. Anyhow, with even one critical machine down and one piece of the car coming out slower than planned, Tesla missed a few Model 3 production forecasts. It’s not fun. It’s yet another sign that Tesla and Elon do not defy the laws of this universe and are indeed fallible. But it’s also a bit extreme, short-sighted, and disingenuous to act like Tesla is always late, only late, and needs to find a working watch.

In fact, the bottlenecks in the second half of 2017 didn’t stop Tesla from reaching Model 3 production in 2017, as it had targeted back in 2013 or even earlier. The bottlenecks slowed down the production increases Tesla was aiming to achieve, but they’ve more or less left Tesla where it was expecting to be when it was forecasting the story back in 2013, 2014, 2015, and 2016.

Elon gets slammed quite frequently for being overly optimistic with timelines. If you look at what he said back in 2013 about Model 3 production beginning no later than 2017, the man was accurate. His estimate was on the mark. His timeline (not quite his hopes, but his committed timeline) was right on the mark.

Who trusted his timeline? Who expected he would actually get the Model 3 into production in 2017? Not many people. And certainly not the people who said Tesla would crash in burn in 2013, in 2014, in 2015, in 2016, and yet again in 2017.

When considering who is more accurate with timelines, perhaps it’s time to give Elon a little more props and a little less sass.

As a final note, remember, many critics also repeatedly said the Tesla Model X couldn’t be mass produced. Some “very serious industry analysts” claimed it was fundamentally impossible. But that’s a story for another day.

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Zachary Shahan Zach is tryin' to help society help itself (and other species). He spends most of his time here on CleanTechnica as its director and chief editor. He's also the president of Important Media and the director/founder of EV Obsession and Solar Love. Zach is recognized globally as an electric vehicle, solar energy, and energy storage expert. He has presented about cleantech at conferences in India, the UAE, Ukraine, Poland, Germany, the Netherlands, the USA, and Canada.

Zach has long-term investments in TSLA, FSLR, SPWR, SEDG, & ABB — after years of covering solar and EVs, he simply has a lot of faith in these particular companies and feels like they are good cleantech companies to invest in. But he offers no professional investment advice and would rather not be responsible for you losing money, so don't jump to conclusions.

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Bob Lutz: Improved Tesla Panel Gaps Are Now “World Class”

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Published on June 16th, 2019 |

by Dr. Maximilian Holland

Bob Lutz: Improved Tesla Panel Gaps Are Now “World Class”

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June 16th, 2019 by Dr. Maximilian Holland

Renowned Tesla bear Bob Lutz has recently sung praises of the build quality of Tesla’s vehicles, saying of a Model 3 that he inspected, “not only was the paint without any discernible flaw, but the various panels formed a body of precision that was beyond reproach.”

This is a significant high note from Lutz, who has been singing of Tesla’s imminent downfall for years. Now a retired veteran of the auto industry, Lutz’s views on the world’s largest EV producer have been mixed, at best.

Recall that, back in the July 2006, Tesla revealed the world’s first compelling long-range EV, the Roadster. Then, in August 2006, Elon Musk “leaked” the secret Tesla Motors master plan, announcing their intended product roadmap of increasingly affordable EVs.

Lutz later famously credited Tesla’s Roadster and early EV plans (along with the early success of the Prius) as inspiring GM to work on the Chevrolet Volt (watch Chris Payne’s Revenge of the Electric Car for more early history). Lutz has also said of Tesla, and its pioneering work in EVs, that he will “always owe them a debt of gratitude for having kind of broken the ice.” Lutz evidently recognizes the role Tesla played early on, in creating the EV renaissance and inspiring others to work on their own EVs.

Lutz has frequently praised Tesla’s vehicles themselves, saying of the Tesla Model S: “A Model S, especially with the performance upgrades, is one of the fastest, best handling, best braking sedans that you could buy in the world today. … The acceleration times will beat any $350,000 European exotic.”

However, Lutz has often expressed doubts about Tesla’s business model and lack of focus on profitability. There are many examples of Lutz’s Tesla bashing, but this one gives the general flavour: “Tesla’s business model is upside down. … Their costs have always been higher than their revenue. … They always have to get more capital, then they burn through it.” We have several times covered the shade that Lutz has thrown Tesla’s way over recent years — if you want more examples, our full archives are here. Charles Morris also has an excellent article charting many of Lutz’s various statements on Tesla and Elon Musk, if you want a deep dive.

My own take on Lutz’s misunderstanding of Tesla’s investment-for-growth-before-profit strategy is fairly simple. Lutz himself was always a career man working for existing, well-established automakers which were well beyond their early growth phase, and likely never understood the culture of an innovative startup looking to disrupt the status quo. He probably didn’t grasp Tesla’s deliberate focus on continuous investment in (extraordinarily) high growth, not quarterly profits per se. This is conscious business strategy on Tesla’s part, and one that Elon Musk re-iterated in the recent 2019 Tesla Annual Shareholder Meeting.

In fairness to Lutz, given his own career, he could scarcely hope to understand this. Since retiring from his fairly conventional management roles, Lutz has only been involved with two small startup auto businesses (VIA Motors and VLF Automotive). It seems neither got beyond showing rough concepts and have now both seemingly either failed or gone into suspended animation. In short, Lutz has never been involved with a successful startup. He is not an entrepreneur.

Bob Lutz. Image credit: Ed Schipul/ [CC BY-SA 2.0] via Wikimedia Commons

The wind has now changed once more and we find Lutz singing the praises of Tesla’s vehicles again. In a recent Road and Track article, Lutz writes, “When I spied a metallic-red Model 3 in an Ann Arbor parking lot, I felt compelled to check it out.” Lutz was expecting to see evidence of the Tesla Model 3’s “production hell” writ large, in uneven panel gaps and imperfections in the paint work.

To his great surprise, Lutz found something completely different:

“But, when next to the car, I was stunned. Not only was the paint without any discernible flaw, but the various panels formed a body of precision that was beyond reproach. Gaps from hood to fenders, doors to frame, and all the others appeared to be perfectly even, equal side-to-side, and completely parallel. Gaps of 3.5 to 4.5mm are considered word-class. This Model 3 measured up.”

In case anyone is concerned that Lutz may have been abducted and replaced with an avatar, don’t sweat it:

“So, while I continue to be critical of Tesla’s business model and Musk’s strategy, it was impossible to find fault with the visual quality of that Model 3.”

Thanks Bob, good to know some things never change. 😉

Editor’s note: As much as I’ve enjoyed laughing at Bob Lutz’s comments about Tesla over the years, I think he deserves huge props for having a fairly open mind and so publicly praising Tesla after putting so much pessimism out there about the company’s ability to succeed or to even produce some of its vehicles (Model S, Model X, Model 3). Thank + kudos to Bob for not being a tribal Tesla troll.

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Dr. Maximilian Holland Max is an anthropologist, social theorist and international political economist, trying to ask questions and encourage critical thinking about social and environmental justice, sustainability and the human condition. He has lived and worked in Europe and Asia, and is currently based in Barcelona.

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Breaking! Tesla Now Offers Used Model 3’s — Should You Buy One?

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Published on June 15th, 2019 |

by Paul Fosse

Breaking! Tesla Now Offers Used Model 3’s — Should You Buy One?

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TL;DR: It depends.

If you ever take a management class in college, that is the answer to every essay question on the test. The instructor expects you to justify the reasons for the different cases. Maybe that is where I learned to be able to argue any side of any issue. Or maybe it was my involvement in politics. Regardless, the used Model 3’s are either a great deal or a horrible one and I will present both cases and they are both potentially true. I depends on your situation.

First, though, I’d like to give my Twitter friend, Steve Jobs (@tesla_truth), credit for letting me know these cars are now available.

I wasn’t able to find used Model 3’s anywhere but in San Francisco, but over time, they should show up around the country. If you really want one, you can have it shipped to you for $2,000 if you are outside of California, but I wouldn’t recommend it. You wouldn’t be able to inspect the car and it just makes the deal more complicated and expensive.

Example Used Vehicle

This early Model 3 has the classic Long Range Rear Wheel Drive that all the first cars came with, and also has the optional 19″ sport wheels and red paint.

Comparable New 3

You can’t order the same car new online today. You can just order the Long Range with All Wheel Drive and Autopilot. Don’t worry, I’ll adjust for that and discuss later.

Comparison

So, first, the case for the used Model 3.

If this is your dream configuration, it allows you to get the car you want for more than $10,000 less than a new Model 3 — that could be a couple hundred bucks a month and the difference between the car being affordable or being out of reach!

Clearly, you have to like the configuration, because if you start changing the wheels or color, you are going to just be spending extra money that you won’t get back. If you can’t find a configuration you love, it is better to buy new. So, if you love the red, long-range, rear-wheel-drive Model 3 with sport wheels, this might be a good deal for you. It would be a good choice for people who have the money to buy the car, but don’t have enough taxable to take the tax credit on the new car. [Editor’s note: This car is now actually gone, with all used Model 3 options now blue.]

For people who love driving the Model 3 (and it is EXTREMELY fun to drive) and don’t care about Autopilot (which I also love for longer trips), why pay for it? The warranty Tesla is offering on used cars is very good and overlaps with the new warranty. This means, in our example, if you bought the car on June 17, 2019, it would cover bumper to bumper till June 16, 2023 or until 78,201 miles on the odometer, whichever comes first. The battery and drive warranty is only 5 years and 92,000 miles from today, but frankly, there have been no reported problems with either of those (and you can bet any problems would be highly publicized by those who want Tesla to fail), so I’m not too worried about them. If you are keeping the car for a while, you don’t care too much about the miles on the car, since over time the condition of the car matters more than the miles.

Now, how about the case against the used car?

The first downside is that only people in California can consider this and really save any money. Another is that you may not like the configuration — you would rather spend your money on Autopilot instead of the red paint and sport wheels, for example.

Most people can use the tax credit and enjoy having the car from day one. There is a special bond many people feel when they buy a car new, to some degree or another (my wife feels this bond quite strongly, I don’t feel it as strongly).

If you are going to resell the car in a few years (possibly to buy a Model Y), I think getting the new one might be better since you will have fewer miles on it and it will be a one-owner trade-in, which may be better. I played around with Kelley Blue Book’s What’s My Car Worth site, and it appears that 15 cents a mile is a pretty good assumption for how much you will be docked for extra miles, but I didn’t adjust for it being one model year older — it seems that would be worth about $3,000 if you trade it in soon (if you keep the car 10 years, nobody cares if it is a 2018 or 2019).

For many, they would prefer to give up a little range and a few other minor features and go with the Standard Range or the Standard Range Plus rather than going used if they have trouble affording the Long Range car.

Conclusion
As I said, I tried to present a compelling case for buying the used vehicle and also a compelling case for why the new vehicle could be a much better deal. I think it is a great option for those who are looking for that specific vehicle and plan to keep it long enough that the miles and model year don’t matter. Which situation resonates with you? Let me know in the comments if you thought I was fair in my comparison.

If you want to take advantage of my Tesla referral link to get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging on a Tesla Model S, Model X, or Model 3, here’s the link: https://ts.la/paul92237 (but if someone else helped you more, please use their code instead of mine).

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Published on June 11th, 2019 |

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Tesla just completed its annual shareholder meeting. Like in meetings past, it was fairly long and covered almost every Tesla topic under the sun. To make it easier for people who couldn’t watch, wouldn’t watch, or simply want to go back to some of the topics in the meeting, below is a timestamped summary from Paul, who kindly stayed up late in Florida (just not as late as me here in Poland 😀 ) to put this together for the world. The summary notes are timestamped based on Eastern Time (pm), since they were made while the video was live. —Zach

5:35 — Picture of audience by General Counsel, Jonathan Chang

5:36 — Robyn Denholm (Tesla Chairman) gave a short intro and thanked shareholders for their internal fortitude.

5:41 — General Counsel Jonathan Chang starts official meeting and voting on all proposals. Board recommended for all their proposals and against the other proposals.

5:47 — All proposals passed that the company recommended except numbers 4 and 5. In the end, 99% voted for those proposals, but they didn’t get the required 66% of total shares represented, so they failed. Those proposals were:

4. A Tesla proposal to approve and adopt amendments to our certificate of incorporation and bylaws to eliminate applicable supermajority voting requirements (“Proposal Four”).

5. A Tesla proposal to approve an amendment to our certificate of incorporation to reduce director terms from three years to two years (“Proposal Five”).

5:50 — Elon Musk starts speaking. (Note: From here on, I’ll only include things I perceive to be news or highlights. Much is repeated from previous meetings, conference calls, or tweets.)

5:51 — The Tesla Model 3 was highest grossing car in the USA — the car which pulled in the most revenue — in the past 12 months. (We’ve reported on this for three quarters and were first to report on the Q3 milestone — see our Q3 2018, Q4 2018, and Q1 2019 reports.)

The Model 3 outsold its BMW, Mercedes, and Audi competitors — combined.

5:52 — Tesla is more efficient than competitors, much more efficient, and no competitors have exceeded the range of the 2012 Tesla Model S.

5:55 — There is “not a demand problem — absolutely not,” Elon emphasized. He also said that Tesla has “a decent shot at a record quarter on every level.”

Importantly, “90% of orders are coming from non-reservation holders — new customers. … 63% of trade-ins are non-premium cars.”

5:56 — Operating costs of an EV are much less than a gas car. A Tesla Model 3 can cost as little as a Camry or Accord, but is much better.

Fart app is “perhaps my finest work.”

5:57 — Full Self Driving will be feature complete by year end — will be able to drive from garage to work with no intervention (but still monitoring). It will then get better and better and eventually get legal approval.

5:59 — Tesla expects to have 1 million robotaxi-capable cars on the road in 2020, which will massively increase their value.

6:00 — Elon presumes you have to be mad to buy a gas or diesel car, because their value will drop quickly. Non-autonomous capable cars will also go down in value.

6:02 — The Tesla Model Y market segment is 2½ times as big as the market for Model 3. Tesla might be able to lower drag coefficient below that of the 3, which is surprising since crossovers usually have poor aerodynamics.

6:04 — JB Straubel (Tesla Chief Technical Officer) came onstage to help explain that Tesla decided it needed a Gigafactory because it knew it would need more batteries than worldwide production at that time. At 80% or so of capacity, it now accounts for half of global EV battery production.

6:08 — Gigafactory 3 (GF3) in China is quickly being constructed to serve the largest car market in the world. The company will be able to avoid import duties and reduce production costs with GF3.

6:09 — Regarding Gigafactory Europe, Tesla hasn’t yet selected a location. It will make a decision on the location sometime around the end of this year, 2019. Cars for sales in Europe will be more affordable if they are built in a factory in Europe.

6:10 — Tesla Energy is expected to see 2× growth in 2019 compared to 2018.

6:11 — The Tesla Solar Roof is being installed in 8 states. A tough problem is making it durable, low cost, and easy to install. Tesla has a shot at it costing as much as a comp shingle roof plus utility costs. Tesla is currently on version 3 of Solar Roof.

6:13 – Drew Baglino (VP of Technology, has been at Tesla for 14 years) was introduced and talked about the company’s solar goals, among other things.

6:15 — V3 Supercharger was mentioned.

6:16 — New maps for Supercharger deployment, including trans-Canada and Alaska, were also shown.

6:17 — Tesla is excited about its new mobile service vans. If your car breaks down, it will automatically send a notice to mobile Tesla service to immediately be dispatched to go fix your car. Tesla first trialled this in the Bay Area and has now extended it to the LA area and some other areas for tire repairs.

6:19 — Tesla is now adding bumper and minor collision repairs as features of these mobile service vans. Tesla just did its first bumper repair from a mobile service van. Elon noted this kind of repair can typically take weeks or months but it took less than an hour in this initial case.

6:20 — The Tesla Pickup unveiling is planned for this summer. It will be a totally Sci-Fi pickup truck. Elon thinks it is the coolest vehicle he’s ever seen, but he’s not sure yet how much others will like it — whether it will be a hit or not.

6:21 — Semi production is expected toward the end of 2020. “No reason to build more products if we don’t have batteries to supply them.”

6:22 — “We might get into the mining business — I don’t know. A little bit at least.”

SAY crowdsourced questions:

6:23 — Elon & JB didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag, but they knew something.

6:24 — Elon will wait for the Battery and Powertrain Investor Day later this year to get into the Maxwell details, but he seemed ver enthusiastic about the potential from this acquisition.

6:27 — Insurance details coming soon. Waiting on a small acquisition and need to write some software.

6:28 — Elon wants the pickup to be great, more functional than the Ford F-150 and a better sports car than a basic Porsche 911.

6:29 — The antenna is a little big. Tesla will probably continue to use cell phone networks. The advantage of Starlink is for low-density areas. It is not ideal for high-density cities.

6:30 — Tesla is likely to just a coating to repel rain and snow. (Elon joked about tiny wipers.)

6:31 — Elon feels good about demand. Profitability is tough as a fast growing company, but expects to be steadily cash flow positive despite a continued high growth rate.

6:32 — Elon said it’s a good idea and Tesla will probably launch a supervised robotaxi/rideshare system until it is approved to run driverless robotaxis.

Audience Questions:

6:34 — Q1 — Energy transmission is a problem, could Tesla get involved in that?

Answer: Roofs solve that problem. You don’t need to transmit it anywhere. Just generate where you live. Storage also helps make existing transmission work better — was what a big Tesla Powerpack project in southern California was used for, at a substation to avoid the need for more transmission lines.

6:38 — Q2 — The China factory production target of 500,000 cars a year seems low. With no import fees, the demand should be very good. Is Tesla being aggressive enough in China? Why not 2 factories?

Answer: We can’t spend money too fast. But, yes, the factory may do a million cars a year eventually. Or not. Tesla may want to have two China factories in the long term so that vehicles are produced close to the customers (China is a big country).

6:42 — Q3 — A potentially new way to let people invest in Superchargers, so they can roll out faster, is via finance companies.

Maybe. Maybe not.

6:44 — Q4 — News on Tesla is so negative that people are afraid to buy a Tesla. Can you solve through some new communications strategies?

Answer: Yes, 200,000 gas cars catch fire a year in the US, while Teslas rarely catch fire. Elon is at a loss to solve the media problem. It is driven by a crazy disinformation campaign, something like Elon has never seen before (ditto for us). Elon and crew asked that people continue to share their own positive messages about the cars and company — that’s the best solution Tesla has. They also highlighted that safety is paramount at Tesla and that is evident in its record-safe vehicles.

6:50 — Q5 — Suggestion: Perhaps a joint discussion with Micheal Bloomberg or Arianna Huffington on your mission, in order to help stimulate better media coverage.

Answer: Elon said that the company does need to take action, and seemed to genuinely consider this idea.

6:53 — Q6 — Where are we on the Mission?

Answer: We have helped the auto industry make the decision to move to EVs much faster. The media situation has always been negative, but Tesla is having a strongly positive impact.

Tesla is also helping to take islands to 100% renewable with solar and storage.

6:58 — Q7 — Congrats on Steven Hawkins medal. What will the towing capacity of the pickup truck be?

Answer: Will meet or exceed a Ford F-150’s towing capacity.

6:59 — Q8 — Full Self Driving … more details?

Answer: Features will be coming from now till the end of year. With Elon’s version, it can drive from home to office, but still has interventions. Tesla must have a general solution. Progress is faster than it appears because Tesla can only release something when it works generally, not only when it works for one specific location. Previously, the system just looked for drivable free sp..

GM’s Cruise Is Valued At $19 Billion — Does That Make Any Sense?

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GM’s Cruise Is Valued At $19 Billion — Does That Make Any Sense?

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The self-driving vehicle startup Cruise that GM acquired in 2016 was recently valued at $19 billion after another round of investments.

That puts Cruise’s valuation at more than half the value of Tesla, and 38% the value of GM as a whole (as of this moment).

That implies, of course, that certain portions of the investment world expect a lot from Cruise, and think it is well on its way to a promising future.

I find the whole thing tremendously interesting. I understand that some auto industry players think Cruise as the perfect approach to autonomous driving, but others think it has fatal flaws and will never outcompete what Tesla is developing. Fine and good — there are differences of opinion in the auto world, and more specifically in a burgeoning new new industry that most consider to be the future. But it still blows my mind a little bit that very little money is invested in the idea Tesla is the world’s autonomous driving leader while Cruise is being valued at $19 billion.

First, though, a few more details on the news. GM raised “an equity investment of $1.15 billion from a group comprising institutional investors, including funds and accounts advised by T. Rowe Price Associates, Inc., and existing partners General Motors, SoftBank Vision Fund and Honda.” The result: “This investment increases Cruise’s post-money valuation to $19.0 billion, inclusive of SoftBank Vision Fund’s previously announced investment commitment. In the last year, Cruise has secured capital commitments totaling $7.25 billion.”

From what I’ve gathered, Cruise’s autonomous driving architecture is much more similar to Waymo’s than Tesla’s. We’ve never done a deep dive on Cruise versus Tesla Autopilot/Full Self Driving, but we have published these comparisons of Tesla’s system with Waymo’s:

Tesla Autopilot Hits 1 Billion Miles! & Why Tesla Autopilot Is The Top Approach To Autonomy
Deep Dive Into Tesla’s Autopilot & Self-Driving Architecture vs Lidar-Based Systems

Aside from those, the following may bring some useful light to the overall story:

Tesla vs. Self-Driving Competition — New MIT Video
Elon Musk Calls Lidar “A Fool’s Errand” … & Other Autonomous Driving Experts Starting To Agree
Tesla Autopilot Miles Soaring
Tesla Autonomy Day: What We Learned
Tesla Autonomy Day Video & Dozens Of Quotes

See more in our Tesla Autonomy Day archives.

Is Cruise worth $19 billion? Well, I certainly couldn’t tell you. Should it be worth $19 billion when Wall Street hardly values Tesla’s autonomous driving leadership? Well, that seems crazy to me, but such is the market today.

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Zachary Shahan Zach is tryin' to help society help itself (and other species). He spends most of his time here on CleanTechnica as its director and chief editor. He's also the president of Important Media and the director/founder of EV Obsession and Solar Love. Zach is recognized globally as an electric vehicle, solar energy, and energy storage expert. He has presented about cleantech at conferences in India, the UAE, Ukraine, Poland, Germany, the Netherlands, the USA, and Canada.

Zach has long-term investments in TSLA, FSLR, SPWR, SEDG, & ABB — after years of covering solar and EVs, he simply has a lot of faith in these particular companies and feels like they are good cleantech companies to invest in. But he offers no professional investment advice and would rather not be responsible for you losing money, so don't jump to conclusions.

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Hot: Elon Musk Interview On “Ride The Lightning” Podcast — A Tesla Geek’s Dream

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Hot: Elon Musk Interview On “Ride The Lightning” Podcast — A Tesla Geek’s Dream

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The Tesla community was excited when they heard that Ryan McCaffrey had scored an interview with Elon Musk for his 200th episode of the “Ride The Lightning” podcast, and he did not disappoint!

To listen to the podcast, you can go to major podcast services, like iTunes or Stitcher, or you can listen to it on YouTube. Here’s a timestamped summary:

0m — Intro to the podcast
1m — Asks, “When did you know the Model S was special?” Also talks about the hiring of Franz.
3m — Designed the Model S as a car he would love — he tried to make something he was sure he would love and hopefully others would love it too.
6m — “Could you foresee the impact the car was going to have on the world?” Elon says he was pessimistic, expected maybe a 10% chance of success.
8m — “Even if we sold 100% electric cars today, it would take 15 years to replace existing cars.”
9m — Ryan’s theory was that Ludicrous Mode was created because nobody copied the Model S, so Tesla was going to shame them.
10m — Elon: Everyone thought EVs would fail in 2008 and 2012.
11m — Everyone said it was impossible to make a high-performance, long-range EV, but physics said it was possible. They then said nobody would buy it. [Editor’s note: This and this.]
13m — Companies are finally building EVs, especially in China. Was hard to compete in China when not locally produced.
14m — Countries will start to ban gas cars, which will impact their gas car sales as those bans approach.
16m — “What was your toughest design choice on Model 3?” Two screens to one screen. Hard to make the Model 3 look good. Central heat exchanger.
18m — Width of the Model 3 driven by the size of parking machines in Japan. Pushed the cabin forward to give it more room. Glass roof adds a lot to the headroom.
19m — Elon explains why the Model 3 doesn’t have a heads-up display.
20m — New Roadster is dessert. Will not produce more than 10,000 a year. It will outperform every gas car at every level.
22m — Can’t say what is in the Founder’s Series. Can go in any direction at 2G’s with cold gas thrusters.
23m — Kept new Roadster a secret by using a separate nondescript building.
24m — Model Y is MUCH roomier on the inside than it looks on the outside, confirming what I wrote in my Model Y styling tricks article. Elon confirmed styling similarity was very much intentional.
26m — Door handles and falcon-wing door movement are designed for beauty. Elon explained the complexity of the logic used to decide when to open Model X doors.
29m — Tesla is trying to make the manufacturing of the Model Y easy because it is too risky to do otherwise. Changing up design for SUV capability, seating 7, ride height, and more cargo capacity while still have a low drag coefficient and not increasing the frontal area too much, in order to keep range high.
31m — Manufacturing improvements for the Y include casting for the rear underbody (70 parts in Model 3 to one part in Model Y, reducing weight and cost).
32m — Underplayed his hand at the Model Y reveal to avoid stealing too many sales from Model 3 (see: Osborne effect).
34m — Probably building Model Y in Fremont, but gating factor is the giant stamping tools for the body. Optimizing for speed of execution. Found extra unused space.
36m — Talked about games in cars, Unity and Unreal Engine. Cuphead is running on Tesla now and is incredibly hard. Storage a limitation, so may only be able to have one game at a time.
39m — Tesla app store: as number of vehicles grows, it makes more sense, but not yet. Today, just have “a few cool games.”
42m — Spotify vs Slacker: just not a priority.
45m — Earning $30,000 a year from your Tesla.
46m — Doesn’t know how to make a $20,000 car yet, needs more R&D and time to get there. Gas cars have had 150 years to get there.
48m — Autonomy changes the game. Use the Tesla Network to make your lease payment. This will make a Tesla affordable to everyone!
51m — Tesla pickup truck will start at less than $50,000. Will look very sci-fi. “Will be more capable than an F-150 and a better sports car than the Porsche 911.” Teaser image is of the front.
54m — V3 Superchargers first deployed on long-distance routes and are replacing V1 sites. Most V2 sites are pretty fast already.
55m — Elon hasn’t gotten any calls from other carmakers yet to use Tesla’s Supercharger networks.
57m — Semi and pickup will both be very important and high-volume products.
59m — Ryan thanks Elon for everything he does!

Conclusion
Ryan did a great job asking questions nobody has asked before, so this is a special one for fans of Tesla and/or Elon Musk. I tried to timestamp the topics so that if you don’t have time for the whole interview you can use your time to just listen to the parts you care the most about. I recommend you listen to the whole thing if you have time.

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Sources Say Tesla Model Y Will Be Built In Fremont, California

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by Steve Hanley

Sources Say Tesla Model Y Will Be Built In Fremont, California

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May 29th, 2019 by Steve Hanley

Note: Everything that follows is based on comments made by Tesla employees to CNBC News. Nothing has been officially confirmed by Tesla despite multiple requests.

CNBC is reporting that Tesla has decided to manufacture the upcoming Model Y electric SUV at the existing factory in Fremont, California. There has been speculation for months that the Model Y could be the first Tesla vehicle built at Gigafactory 1 in Nevada. Elon Musk has previously said that the Model Y could be built in Nevada or in Fremont, that the decision hadn’t been made. Though, the Gigafactory seemed to be preferred at one point.

If true, what the news means is that until the Shanghai factory gets up and running, all Tesla automobiles will be built in California. At the rapid pace of progress in Shanghai, though, Model Y production may start there when it starts in the USA.

Employees tell CNBC the company has just begun ordering the tooling needed to construct the Model Y assembly line. In order to make room within the already congested factory, the Model S and Model X will be built on one assembly line. Today, they are built on separate lines.

The Model X, as good as it is (and it is very, very good), stands as a memorial to Musk’s and Tesla’s manufacturing inexperience. The X was supposed to be built on the S chassis, but the way things turned out, 70% of the parts needed to manufacture the X were different from the sedan. In particular, the iconic falcon-wing doors required a separate assembly line, at least at first.

Tesla has learned its lesson. Even though Musk wanted significant differences between the 3 and the Y, his manufacturing specialists talked him out of that plan. As a result, the Y and the 3 will share many common parts and components, speeding production and lowering costs.

Several Teslascenti had reported their Tesla factory tours had been cancelled because of changes taking place at the Fremont facility, but Elon Musk chimed in on Twitter (apparently changing company plans) and said tours were still available but some parts of the factory would no longer be included because of ongoing factory upgrades.

(Note: You can always enjoy our special custom tour of the Tesla Fremont factory on YouTube.)

Tesla Model S Refresh Coming
People working at the Fremont factory also tell CNBC a refreshed Model S is scheduled to start production in September. They say the “new” Model S will have an all-new interior that borrows from the minimalist look and feel of the Model 3. (In other words, if you prefer the more traditional look of the current S & X interior, now is a good time to buy. If you like the minimalism of the Model 3, you may want to wait.)

Tesla will also use the same drive motors as the Model 3 and the seats the company uses in the top-of-the-line versions of the Model 3.

With more efficient motors and unspecified changes to the battery pack, the updated Model S will have an EPA range of 400 miles or more, they say.

Those sources also say that production of the Model S and Model X is only happening during regular working hours Monday through Friday — no weekend or second shift work is being done. Whether that is because demand for the two cars is softening or because Tesla is getting better at building them is unclear.

Tesla cut the price of the Model S by $3,000 and the Model X by $2,000 last week. It is also expanding the amount of free Supercharging available to buyers of both models. In that now infamous tweet by Elon Musk earlier this year, he said his company would produce about 400,000 vehicles this year and be on pace to build 600,000 a year by the end of 2019. What the mix of cars will be has not been revealed.

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Adam Jonas’s Thoughts on Tesla: Facts or Fantasies?

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Adam Jonas’s Thoughts on Tesla: Facts or Fantasies?

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The trading week of May 20–24 was not kind to Tesla. The stock dropped more than 20 points, which translates into a loss of some $3.5 billion in market capitalization. The primary reason for the plunge was investor reactions to a full-court press of negative comments from analysts and the media.

A central figure in the week’s vortex of negativity was Morgan Stanley analyst Adam Jonas. Not only had he posted recent reductions in Tesla stock’s price targets, but he went so far as to host an investor’s conference call, aimed at institutional investors, to share his negative impressions of Tesla with those companies holding the lion’s share of the company’s stock (TSLA).

How well did Jonas portray Tesla’s prospects? We have a unique opportunity to judge his presentation because just one day later, on May 23, Elon Musk issued an email to employees in which he shared critical information about second quarter vehicle production and deliveries. Armed with actual data, let’s look at the claims in Jonas’s investor call and judge his points on a scale of Hit or Miss.

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Reality Check

Hit or Miss?

Tesla is burning money.

Tesla had operating cash flow of $1.4 billion in Q3 2018 and $1.2 billion in Q4 2018. Q1 of 2019 had substantial negative cash flow, but Q2 2018 deliveries in the vicinity of Q4 2018’s would produce positive cash flows again, and expectations are that Q3 2019 will be better than Q2. One quarter does not a money burner make, especially when Musk warned early that logistics of beginning international deliveries in Q1 would lead to an additional 10,000 vehicles in transit during the quarter.

Miss

Supply of Tesla vehicles is greater than demand

Tesla’s production of Model 3 in Q1 2019 was constrained by the availability of Panasonic produced cells. Message boards indicate brisk demand for all Tesla vehicles at the moment. With M3 production at 900/day, trying to push 1000/day, production is the bottleneck in Q2, not demand. Q2 increase in production is possible because of shift to standard range M3s, which use fewer cells. No standard range M3s were shipping to Europe or China in Q1. Musk’s email explained how 50,000 new orders had come in already during the first 7 weeks of Q2, suggesting continued growth of organic demand.

Miss

Nobody cares about Model Y

In Q1, Model 3 was the highest grossing vehicle of any type in California. As Jonas points out, the sedan market is dying in America. It’s being replaced with the CUV and SUV market, which is why Elon Musk predicts Model Y will outsell S,X, and 3 combined. If you review the Model Y presentation, you’ll see how Musk downplayed the vehicle (likely to avoid distracting from Model 3 orders during the long wait for Model Y). Moreover, the Tesla Semi is a commercial vehicle with extremely attractive economics and it, too, begins production in in 2020.

Miss by a mile

China is a big concern

Model 3 begins production in China late this year, and the vehicle will be tariff-free to Chinese customers, regardless of trade war status. Chinese automotive expert Michael Dunne appeared on the May 26 edition of Autoline This Week and explained how well positioned Tesla is for success in China with its factory, huge support from Shanghai’s government, and the Chinese being big fans of Tesla and Elon Musk. Meanwhile, teardown expert Sandy Munro says the China-built Model 3 SR should generate 25% gross margins. Current orders in China for long-range Model 3s with tariffs attached does not provide a good basis for judging demand for the more affordable Model 3s soon to be built in the country.

Miss

Tesla is no longer a growth story

To solve the battery cell bottleneck, installation of three fast cell production lines at GF1 and transition to local labor will help in the short run. In long run, changing to a dry electrode battery technology pioneered by recently-acquired Maxwell Technologies will allow many times the production within the existing factory space. These cheaper and longer-lasting batteries will allow Model Y and Semi to move forward with adequate cell availability and cost reductions of about 20%. The exciting lineup of future Tesla models, along with GF3 coming on line, will allow substantial growth in 2020. Musk’s email suggests that Tesla has a chance in Q2 to exceed the 90,700 vehicles delivered in Q4 2018 if production allows.

Miss by a country mile

The problem with the Jonas report on Tesla was not one or two isolated points, but rather a pattern of over-the-top negativity that completely distorts the company’s attractiveness as an investment.

The publication of these points of negativity brought up by Jonas damaged Tesla’s stock price because the public expects analysts from a firm with the stature of Morgan Stanley to be capable of somewhat accurately analyzing a company that falls within their specialty. Moreover, Jonas went after Tesla’s biggest investors with this presentation, the people who could most damage Tesla’s stock price. He called Tesla “a distressed-credit story and restructuring story,” thus sounding his alarm as loudly as possible.

The fallout for Tesla was greater than what one would expect from just a bad analyst’s opinion, however. In a note released by Jonas earlier in the week, he dropped his bear-case price target for Tesla from $97 to a mere $10 (yet didn’t change the overall price target). This amount was so far removed from reality that even Musk’s nemesis Jim Cramer called the number “really insane.” Nonetheless, that $10 target received enormous traction as reporters of every type picked up and repeated the $10 price target story. Predictably, a copycat “really insane” worst-case target soon followed, this time from Citigroup, as it gave a $36 target which was likewise picked up by reporters. Such ridiculously low targets turned out to be a truly effective form of FUD, however, and those of us who share Tesla stock information with friends and family members were deluged with questions from worried stockholders ready to sell. If the goal was to drive down the stock price, it worked.

The calamity of a seriously inaccurate appraisal of a company’s prospects reached its zenith as reporters chose to write stories about Jonas’s imaginings rather than base stories upon the far less sensational words of Tesla’s CEO, who had just indicated to employees that Q2 looked promising. The week concluded with the Associated Press sending out a story which quoted Senior Analyst Jessica Caldwell of Edmunds as saying, “There doesn’t appear to be anything in the (product) pipeline that is going to save them.” Each retelling of the story gets worse as the ethics of click reporting continue to erode the few remaining hints of journalistic integrity still out there.

To Adam Jonas, I pose this question: Knowing what you learned from the Musk email to employees the day after your investor’s call, are you going to publicly share a significantly revised view of Tesla within a week?

A lack of action would suggest only the worst of motivations for producing such an inaccurate assessment of Tesla. Mr. Jonas, do the right thing.

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Tesla Order Rate Surges 25% Worldwide, 116% In North America, According To New Data

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Tesla Order Rate Surges 25% Worldwide, 116% In North America, According To New Data

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While the financial media and analysts continue to question Tesla’s demand on the basis of one unusually “bad” quarter, quarterly data and internal Tesla emails show worldwide order rates are actually up 25% in Q2 versus Q1. Meanwhile, a crowdsourced Tesla order tracker shows US and Canada Model 3 orders are up 116% versus Q1, and website traffic and interest data show that interest in Tesla’s vehicles is higher than in the past.

These data points are especially significant as the stock hits 3-year lows mostly due to speculation about soft demand, resulting in the stock price divorcing from reality for a company whose demand is actually very healthy. Many powerful and influential actors stand to profit from the declining stock price, which directly affects Tesla’s employees’ compensation and Tesla’s ability to raise capital to fund its vision of a sustainable future.

The worldwide order data for the second quarter comes from Elon Musk’s recently leaked internal email, in which he told employees that Tesla has over 50,000 new orders net of cancellations from April 1–May 21. This represents an order rate of about 980 cars per day for all three models (S/3/X) worldwide. This number was underreported in the news about Tesla, partially because it doesn’t fit with analysts and media commentators claiming soft demand, and partially because the number isn’t directly comparable to any other number.

However, it is possible to estimate Tesla’s orders for previous quarters simply due to the way it reports its production and deliveries.

Tesla reports how many cars were delivered and how many were in transit to customers. Cars in transit are defined as ordered cars that have been built and are currently being shipped to a customer. In most recent quarters, Tesla builds the bulk of its cars at the same time or even before the car is ordered, and then assigns the car to a buyer after it leaves the factory. That means that one could calculate the orders in a particular quarter by starting with deliveries in that quarter (in order for a car to be delivered, it must be ordered), and subtracting in-transit cars from the previous quarter (in-transit means the car was already ordered last quarter), and then adding back the in-transit cars from the quarter of interest (which had to have been ordered in that quarter). Finally, we divide by the number of days in the quarter to see the daily order rate.

For example, in Q1, Tesla entered the quarter with 2,907 cars in transit from Q4, delivered 63,000 cars, and had 10,600 cars in transit to customers at the end of the quarter. This implies 70,693 orders in the first quarter over 90 days, or 785 orders per day.

With 980 orders per day in Q2 so far, according to the leaked internal email, that is a 25% increase over the 785 order per day rate in Q1. This methodology for calculating orders is adopted from twitter user @vgrinshpun.

I would note that this methodology will be flawed and actually overestimate orders for quarters in which Tesla started with a significant backlog of orders (a backlog implies some cars have been ordered but not yet built and therefore not captured in the in-transit numbers). However, Q1 2019 is not such a quarter since there was virtually no backlog from the fourth quarter when Tesla pulled out all the stops to deliver as many vehicles worldwide as possible, including in the largest market, the US, before the first step in the tax credit phaseout. It is also discernible from the short wait times for Tesla’s cars that there has not been significant backlog this year. Q4 2018 and Q3 2018 might have had significant backlogs at the beginning of the quarters, so it is likely that this methodology will overstate the number of orders in the quarter, which in fact makes the Q2 order number look even stronger when comparing to those quarters.

There is even more evidence for significantly increased orders in the second quarter versus the first for US and Canada, according to a crowdsourced spreadsheet that tracks orders and deliveries and samples around 1% of all orders per quarter. It is worth noting that participation rates in this spreadsheet decline over time, so the underlying order rate might be the same between two quarters even when the spreadsheet shows a decline in the orders. Despite this slight flaw that makes order rates in more recent quarters appear lower than previous quarters, average daily order rates in Q2 are up 116% versus Q1 in the US and Canada.

Finally, the last piece of data that corroborates Tesla’s increasing demand story is the increasing website traffic, website engagement, website time spent, and overall search interest data from Alexa.com and Google Trends. Discussions of this have been published on both CleanTechnica and Seeking Alpha.

Tesla.com ranking relative to other websites.

“Numbers represent search interest relative to the highest point on the chart for the given region and time. A value of 100 is the peak popularity for the term. A value of 50 means that the term is half as popular. A score of 0 means there was not enough data for this term.”

All the available data points to increasing demand for Tesla’s cars, not softening demand as financial media and some analysts often suggest. The takeaway from this is that financial media and analysts often speculate and do not necessarily update their speculations when hard data comes out, leaving everyone else to do their own homework or wait until official data is released to come to conclusions. Another side effect is that Tesla’s stock keeps falling due to speculation about soft demand when the reality is the opposite. Most people would call this an opportunity.

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Michael Grinshpun Michael Grinshpun is a dual undergraduate and graduate student in economics. He writes about the electric car industry and works on sustainable energy issues. He works on Carbon Free Boston, an initiative to lower Boston’s carbon emissions to zero by 2050, as well as on water utility projects. Previously, Michael has worked in solar consulting and energy facilities.

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52% Of Consumers Likely To Buy An Electrified Vehicle In Canada Within 5 Years

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Published on May 27th, 2019 |

by Paul Fosse

52% Of Consumers Likely To Buy An Electrified Vehicle In Canada Within 5 Years

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May 27th, 2019 by Paul Fosse

Although we reported less than 3 months ago that more education is needed to accelerate EV adoption, a recent survey provides some encouraging news. In a survey commissioned by Toyota Canada this month, 36% said they had “seriously considered buying a more fuel efficient vehicle, such as a hybrid electric, plug-in hybrid electric, or fuel cell vehicle.”

Looking into the future, slightly over half (52%) “say they are likely to buy a more fuel-efficient vehicle in the next 5 years.”

Not surprisingly, those in the rural provinces are the least likely, while the more urban provinces are more likely. More interestingly, the study shows it is rising gas prices that is both prompting a change in summer travel plans and encouraging consumers to reconsider their choice of vehicle.

Although this research shows that older drivers are the least interested in electric vehicles and tend to view the technology as unproven, they are also the demographic most concerned about rising fuel costs. Younger drivers show an increased interest in performance. That suggests EV education targeted toward an older audience should focus on the practical aspects of the EV (low fuel and maintenance costs), while advertising targeted to the younger demographic should lead with the driving experience and improved performance.

It’s hard to say if Canada’s recently added EV incentives, described here, or the regional incentives described in this article have moved public opinion. It could simply be the result of the increased fuel prices. We continue to think the biggest influence on people’s behavior is awareness of both the existence of modern EVs and their advantages — by either advertising, a family member, or a close friend buying one and sharing their experience — but the role of fuel prices is one that should not be forgotten.

Photo of Vancouver downtown by Zach Shahan, CleanTechnica. Photo of Tesla Shuttle Indie Ryan R. Mitchell and his son by Sarah Mitchell.

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Paul Fosse A Software engineer for over 30 years, first developing EDI software, then developing data warehouse systems. Along the way, I've also had the chance to help start a software consulting firm and do portfolio management. In 2010, I took an interest in electric cars because gas was getting expensive. In 2015, I started reading CleanTechnica and took an interest in solar, mainly because it was a threat to my oil and gas investments. Follow me on Twitter @atj721 Tesla investor. Tesla referral code: https://ts.la/paul92237

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