CATL-Built Tesla Model 3 Battery Pack Will Use Prismatic Cells

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Published on February 19th, 2020 |

by Chanan Bos

CATL-Built Tesla Model 3 Battery Pack Will Use Prismatic Cells

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The battery news keep getting crazier each day. Exactly one week ago, we learned that Tesla might be assembling a battery cell production line in Fremont, then a few days ago that they are buying some battery startups in Denver and even Elon seems to have visited. Then, yesterday, we learned that Tesla in China might use lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) batteries from CATL* in the Model 3 SR+, and that it’s all made possible by putting cells straight into the battery pack without modules. What we learned in today’s revelation is that those LFP batteries will be prismatic, and the pack might be built — or is at least designed by — CATL utilizing its cell-in-pack technology, something that Tesla is also working on but has thus far not yet implemented.

Only with LFP batteries
To repeat: Tesla in China will have a Model 3 battery pack that uses prismatic batteries instead of cylindrical ones and also has no modules. When I heard this news, there was only one thing that felt at least somewhat certain, that this is only possible with LFP cells. Most EVs lose their battery capacity after a few years, but Tesla’s hardly lose any capacity. By having so many cylindrical cells working together, each is only taxed slightly during discharge. Also, the batteries have little volume and plenty of surface area for some really good cooling.

In this strange circumstance, Tesla can maintain its quality, reduce the price, and use LFP prismatic cells. While each cell is taxed more, LFP batteries last longer, so that makes up the difference. The main disadvantage LFP batteries have is lower energy density. However, with this rare cell-to-pack technology, we can make up the difference to create the 50 kWh pack that the Model 3 SR+ needs.

Getting a picture of what this will look like

Quickly drawn render of prismatic cells on a Model 3’s battery pack

My first research effort was to take a look at the Model 3 battery pack as well as its insides, and then try to calculate what kind of cells will be used as well as how many and in what way they will be placed. Here are the approximate external dimensions of the Model 3’s battery pack: 216.63 cm by 147.32 cm by ~10.5 cm (L x W x H). Inside are 4 modules, each 9 cm high, 29.2 cm wide, and 185.4 cm long for the longer modules.

Here is what we can be somewhat certain of: even without modules, the height of each prismatic cell cannot be more than 90mm, and it is somewhere in that range. Almost all EV prismatic batteries are approximately 48mm thick, in which case we would could fit something like 38 rows of batteries in there. As for how many columns there will be, that could be something like 5 or 6.

Conclusion
Today’s news will take some time to process. Calculations need to be made and long showers need to be taken before we get any big new revelations about this. If there is one important takeaway from today’s news, it seems to be that the collaboration between CATL and Tesla is more serious than previously thought. It really does appear that CATL did a lot of legwork to design this unique new pack for Tesla without significantly altering the Model 3’s battery pack dimensions.

Either Tesla is going out of its way to make the Chinese authorities happy, or this arrangement really benefits Tesla and CATL, enough to design a whole new battery pack and risk exposing CATL’s cell-to-pack technology to the competition. When it comes to using prismatic cells, there are two concerns: how well these cells can be cooled and what kind of acceleration we can expect with this battery pack. One question that we saw a lot of people ask is, does this technology have a future if energy density can be significantly increased with Maxwell’s dry electrode technology? Who knows?

Have you had any good shower thoughts about what this news could mean? Make sure to share in the comments below.

*Disclosure: CATL was a sponsor of our latest report, Electric Car Drivers: Demands, Desires & Dreams.

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Tesla Employee Handbook Is Nothing Like Other Employee Handbooks

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Published on February 16th, 2020 |

by Steve Hanley

Tesla Employee Handbook Is Nothing Like Other Employee Handbooks

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Fifty years ago, Robert Townsend, the new head of Avis, wrote a book entitled Up the Organization: How to Stop the Corporation from Stifling People and Strangling Profits. It was a response to the highly organized, button-down, gray-flannel corporate culture epitomized by such corporate giants as IBM and Xerox. It was unorthodox, brash, and unsettling to many corporate types who believed the way to get ahead was to conform to the dictates of the boss at all times.

The book was divided into several chapters, each one dealing with a different facet of corporate culture. One in particular is memorable. Entitled “Meetings,” it offered this cogent advice: “Cancel all meetings.” End of chapter. Somewhere along the way, Elon Musk must have read this book (or simply came to the same conclusion on his own), because the company he heads has a guide for new employees with a similar title — The Anti-Handbook Handbook.

Photos of that document were leaked recently to Mark Matousek of Business Insider. It has been downloaded to Scribd as well. Matousek has kindly reprinted the entire 4 page document (that’s right — it is only 4 pages long) at the end of his article if you want to read it for yourself. He also highlighted some relevant portions, however, starting with the introduction. Tesla did not respond to his requests for comments about the story.

“We’re Tesla. We’re changing the world. We’re willing to rethink everything,” the handbook begins. “We’re different and we like it that way. Being different allows us to do what no one else is doing; to do what others tell us is impossible.

Your #1 job — everyone’s #1 job — is making this company a success. If you see opportunities to improve the way we do things, speak up even if these are outside your area of responsibility. You have a personal stake in Tesla’s success so make suggestions and share your ideas. Your good ideas mean nothing if you keep them to yourself.

Not your typical employee manual. Not at all. And the hits keep on coming. Inc. has a few more details:

Anyone at Tesla can and should email or talk to anyone else according to what they think is the fastest way to solve a problem for the benefit of the whole company. You can talk with your manager, you can to to your manager’s manager, you can talk directly to a VP in another department, you can talk to Elon.
“No one told me” is an excuse that will never fly here.
If you can’t be reliable, this isn’t the place for you.
“You’re tardy” is something kids are told in school. This isn’t school. Plan to be here on time ready to start work when you are scheduled. Traffic accidents happen. We get that. But not every Monday during football season.

Here’s one more for your consideration: “Our assumption will be that if you don’t call and don’t show up for work, you’re a jerk. You better have a really good reason for not letting us know why you didn’t come in or you’re out of here.”

What is missing from the Anti-Handbook Handbook is a bunch of “party of the first part,” “heretofore,” and “notwithstanding” language beloved by corporate attorneys everywhere. There is a link in the text to an internal webpage that has more specifics about such legal niceties.

The Coen brothers may have done the best send-up of a traditional company orientation in the movie The Hudsucker Proxy. Here is a clip you may find amusing:

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Tesla Autopilot Mystery Solved — HW3 Full Potential Soon To Be Unlocked

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Tesla Autopilot Mystery Solved — HW3 Full Potential Soon To Be Unlocked

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In June 2019 after Tesla’s Autonomy Investor Day, we did a deep dive into Tesla’s HW3 chip that explored the various capabilities and potential of the HW3 processor system on a chip (SoC). I may have geeked out a little and made that a bit too technical, so I will try not to repeat that mistake in this article. Long story short, HW3 is a total beast. It is very different from the NVIDIA chip Tesla was using in the previous generation. So, it was very surprising when Elon said that there was no big rush to retrofit existing cars because “right now” (back then) you would not notice much of an increase in performance over HW2.

For the next bit, you are going to need to take a good look at the image below, so take a moment to study it and return to it if necessary.

So, retrofitting HW2 to HW3 in H2 2019 does not improve performance. What this likely means is that Tesla pretty much just took the existing Autopilot software designed for HW2 and emulated it to run on HW3. Now, for those of you unfamiliar with emulation, a good explanation is the movie Inception, but for computers. Imagine a Windows 10 computer running the Android operating system in a window — basically, Android is a program on the computer, not the operating system.

In this case, HW3 emulated HW2 to get the existing Autopilot software to function. The only problem is, HW3 is supposed to run most tasks not on the processor or graphics card but on its Neural Processing Units (NPUs), which are not designed for direct software emulation and are probably not capable of that. In principle, the Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) and the Central Processing Unit (CPU) together are capable of emulation. However, the CPU and GPU components of HW3 are less powerful than the ones in HW2, so they physically cannot directly emulate it. So, Tesla did move some tasks to the NPUs to make it work — but Autopilot needed a major rewrite of the base code to truly unlock HW3’s potential.

On a side note, HW3’s CPU and GPU are unnecessarily powerful for the minor tasks an NPU is not capable of. What this likely means is that those components were chosen to allow Autopilot to transition from HW2 to HW3. HW4 will likely have a much smaller GPU and CPU and either make more room for even more complicated neural nets plus higher-resolution/frame-rate cameras or simply reduce the power requirements of the SoC.

Thanks to Third Row Podcast’s interview with Elon Musk, we now have confirmation of the above theory and some really juicy new details. All these months, Tesla was rewriting Autopilot’s base code behind the scenes and will soon(ish) push that update to all vehicles running HW3. This could even signal the end to major updates for HW2 and HW2.5 Autopilot systems.

Making the Neural Networks Work Collectively
The next thing that we find out is what kind of changes under the hood Tesla has been allocating those extra neural nets to. Basically, the first of two major improvements is intertwining the different systems and decisions and making the neural networks work collectively. In other words, the car will be better at predicting that A results in B rather than observing A and reacting only after seeing B. We made a short 30 second clip for the occasion.

360° Camera View
The other change pertains to how Autopilot looks at the world and interprets information from the cameras. Elon once described a human driver as 2 cameras on a gimbal powered by a supercomputer — so, that’s the eyes, neck, and brain. Here is how to visualize how Autopilot works now: imagine a person is sitting behind the desk. He is tasked with drawing on a blank piece of paper a layout with the positions and trajectories of all the cars around your vehicle by looking at 6 different screens that are positioned in front of him — hard work. Now, the new Autopilot system is one camera, a 360° camera. People sometimes joke that you need eyes in the back of your head, but imagine being able to see in 360 degrees and fully comprehend in your vision all that happens around you intuitively. So awesome. Well, that is how the new Autopilot system works. It stitches together the data from all the cameras into one 360° camera. This should significantly improve the system’s ability to learn from driving experience.

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Conclusion
Tesla’s HW3 computer is an absolute beast. It can handle 7 times as many frames, has 7 times larger neural nets, and as was said in the presentation, “There are a lot of ways you can spend that.” Tesla has indeed slowly been allocating the SoC’s resources, and by the sound of it, they will soon be done rewriting Autopilot’s existing functions, will add a few more vital ones, and will publish that and then continue building on top of it.

A lot of people don’t believe that Tesla’s robotaxi autonomous network is less than a decade away, or could even be 4 or 5 years away. I say that those people underestimate exponential progress and machine learning, and do not fully comprehend how HW3 raises the playing field. Just to clarify, that does not mean that level 5 autonomy on all roads and off the road will be available all over the world, but at least one country with very good roads and infrastructure will have it and other countries will follow suit.

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Norway Hits 64.4% EV Market Share In January, Up 24% Year On Year

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Published on February 5th, 2020 |

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Norway Hits 64.4% EV Market Share In January, Up 24% Year On Year

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Norway, the undisputed global leader in the EV transition, hit 64.4% EV market share in January, with over 44% share for pure electrics and 20% for plug-in hybrids. This best-ever-January result was achieved before 2020 shipments of the top selling Tesla Model 3 have even arrived in the country, with the Audi e-tron (902 units) and Renault Zoe (533 units) seeing the highest January volumes.

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Click on the chart to zoom in. I’ve added the trend line (January 2019 to January 2020, rising 24% in relative terms) to cut through the monthly noise. January 2020 not only trends higher on a year-on-year basis, but also higher than 2019’s overall market share of 56%. Norway’s EV transition is well past the halfway mark, and is still moving quickly towards completion.

End-of-quarter periods clearly show the Tesla European shipping cycle, which will continue until Tesla Gigafactory Berlin starts production at some point in the coming 12 to 24 months. In 2020, with growing European EV supply volumes from other automakers, the quarterly cycles will be less pronounced, but still noticeable.

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With Tesla’s European deliveries coming on strong towards the end of the quarter, we should again see record EV market share being broken in March 2020, with likely 75% to 80% or more of all passenger auto sales being EVs, up from March 2019’s 69%.

Rest of Europe
Back in 2015, Norway saw 14% EV market share, which is approximately the share that Sweden saw last year (2019, 15% market share). Does this mean it will take another 4 or 5 years for Sweden to reach where Norway is today?

Not quite. January 2020 has already seen Sweden hit over 30% market share (look out for more detail coming soon), though it remains open whether the full year share will maintain these levels. Important to note — Sweden’s auto market, at around 350,000 units per year, is around 2.5× the size of Norway’s.

Renault Zoe. Image courtesy Renault Press Images

We’ve seen that France — Europe’s second or third largest auto market (vying annually with the UK) — has just hit 11% EV market share in January. We’re currently waiting on January figures from Germany and the UK. The other large European markets of Italy and Spain also hit record market shares last month (2.1% and 4%, respectively).

A smaller market (~225,000 annual auto sales) punching well above its weight in EVs is Portugal, having just hit 11% market share. We’re currently on the lookout for strong January performances from Switzerland, Finland, and Iceland (no data just yet, stay tuned).

What’s your best guess as to European EV market shares in 2020? Please give us your thoughts in the comments.

For more EV sales reports, head over to: cleantechnica.com/tesla-sales/

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A Tesla Model 3 Goes From Rolled Aluminum To A Finished Vehicle In 48 Hours

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A Tesla Model 3 Goes From Rolled Aluminum To A Finished Vehicle In 48 Hours

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Tesla takes raw sheets of rolled aluminum and turns them, along with hundreds of other parts, into finished vehicles at its factory in Fremont, California, in less than 48 hours.

Screen capture from: Third Row Tesla Podcast

The insight came from one of the longest interviews Elon Musk has ever given, which was with the crew from the Third Row Tesla podcast (Apple, Stitcher, Spotify, Twitter, YouTube, Podbay), with a special bonus appearance from Elon’s brother and fellow Tesla board member and cofounder Kimbal Musk. Their mother, Maye Musk, was also present and occasionally chimed in from an adjoining room. The combined effect was a very personal, insightful two-part interview (so far) that delved into the more human side of Elon.

On the manufacturing front, Kimbal was the one who broached the subject. “What I find amazing is from start to finish, a car is made in 48 hours,” Kimbal said. He talked about the reels of aluminum stock that Tesla uses in its stamping press to form body panels and how the company turns jumbles of parts and raw materials into fully formed vehicles in less than 48 hours. “You can see the rolled aluminum in one section of the factory and you can see the cars coming out the other end.”

Body parts come off of Tesla’s stamping press at its Fremont Factory. Image credit: Kyle Field | CleanTechnica

“You don’t appreciate when you’re driving a car how much goes into the level of detail,” Kimbal continued.

In a Tesla Model 3, there are 10,000 unique parts in every vehicle, according to Elon Musk. “The pack alone is several thousand cells,” he said. Assembling all of those parts with as close to a zero failure rate as possible is hard to imagine for folks who have not lived it firsthand.

That’s why automation seemed like the obvious solution to Tesla when it came time to build the “affordable” Model 3. Installing robots that don’t mind doing the same task over and over thousands of times per day with unparalleled precision was part of the plan from day 1.

“Manufacturing is insanely difficult. It’s under-appreciated in its difficulty,” Elon said. After installing robots on the Model 3 production and assembly lines, Tesla had to walk it back a bit to strike the ideal balance.

Kimbal unpacked the journey more, noting that, “skills are changing as things become a little bit … there’s more autonomy, but autonomy isn’t perfect, so you do need to have a lot of people there. These cars have to be perfect.” It took Tesla a solid 12 months of living through what Elon called “production hell” to work through all the bugs in Tesla’s first real deep dive into building and streamlining the mass manufacturing process.

Screen capture from: Third Row Tesla Podcast

The process included the integration of Tesla’s own operating system into the human-machine interfaces (HMIs) of the equipment in the factory. Tesla’s ability to master and actively develop new manufacturing processes in the physical world with new equipment and in the digital world with custom software continues to be a significant advantage. The advantage stretches beyond just the automotive world and into the broader landscape of manufacturing companies, as other companies that build products don’t also design and program the equipment to build them at this scale.

“Given how much complexity is in a car, it’s remarkable they cost as little as they do,” Elon said.

If you haven’t watched it yet, part two of the podcast gives an exciting look behind the scenes of Elon’s life and the world of Tesla.

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Published on February 2nd, 2020 |

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Elon Musk Shares History Of Tesla Battery Modules & Why They Are Going Away

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Tesla CEO Elon Musk shared in an episode of the Third Row Tesla podcast that went live this week that the company is moving away from the concept of battery modules in future pack designs.

The comment came about as the group talked about the battery in the original Tesla Roadster and how, due to the number of problems with battery packs they were having, they built the batteries to be modular. “The reason there were cells, modules, and packs goes back to the original Roadster days,” Elon said. “The original reason why the Roadster pack had like 16 blades or modules was that if one of them didn’t work, you could pull it out and put another one in.” The design choice allowed them to swap out a failed battery module to replace it with a new one in the event of a problem.

A Tesla battery pack at the Fremont Factory. Image courtesy: Tesla.

The concept of modules carried through to the Model S, which also leverages a battery pack comprised of a bundling of a dozen or so battery modules that were similar in shape and size, with the number of modules per pack varying slightly depending on the capacity of the battery. In addition, the Model S and X were designed to have a rapidly swappable battery pack, an idea that was later scrapped. Regardless, every Model S and X built even today is capable of swapping its battery pack, even though no stations exist to perform the task.

The early design choice to build battery cells into modules resulted in dedicated teams within Tesla to design the battery modules themselves even today. This organizational decision resulted in battery modules showing up yet again in the Tesla Model 3, even though splitting the battery pack up into modules no longer served an actual function. “The modules in the Model 3 are not actually interchangeable, so there’s no point in having modules really, we should just have a pack.” It’s a remnant from times long past that Elon is now working to correct.

According to Musk, he is now considering rolling the people assigned to battery module teams within Tesla into the pack team to help remedy the situation. “You don’t really need modules in my view. Just take cells and put them in a pack.”

Tesla is more innovative and dynamic that any other automaker operating at scale, but this tale of the history of battery modules at Tesla makes it clear that even Tesla struggles with maintaining a perfectly streamlined organization and avoiding inefficient corporate inertia. Imperfections in the organization translate directly into the product, as was the case with battery modules. Fortunately, Tesla has already identified this as an opportunity to streamline the product and increase the company’s efficiency.

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Published on January 25th, 2020 |

by Paul Fosse

Timestamped Guide To 2 Hour Elon Musk Interview By Third Row Tesla

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January 25th, 2020 by Paul Fosse

If you haven’t see the part one of the Elon Musk interview with the Third Row team yet, I highly recommend it. That said, I know it is challenging to find 2 and a quarter hours to dedicate to listen to it, so I summarized the content of the podcast/video for you so that you can easily jump to sections that most interest you! This might also be useful for you later on if you want to share a specific segment of the interview with someone.

0:00 — Introduction of the Third Row Crew

1:40 — Why Elon interacts with “regular people” on Twitter. Short answer is: it’s a fun way to get the message out.

3:30 — Why Twitter? He doesn’t trust Facebook.

6:50 — Elon explains his current wealth is a billion in debt and then Tesla and SpaceX stock.

9:00 — Capitalism vs Communism? Whichever has a better feedback loop from the population’s happiness to allocation of resources. A government monopoly doesn’t do a good job of that.

11:00 — Automakers tricked government regulators into subsidizing fuel cells. Discusses the candlelight vigil for GM’s EV1.

12:00 — Oligopoly in candy. Only 3 makers worldwide make all the candy and dog food.

13:45 — Car industry pretty competitive.

14:00 — At Gene Wilder’s old house with Solar Roof V3.

16:00 — Solar, EVs, and insulation best ways to make a difference.

17:00 — Did you always know you wanted to start a business? Elon: I thought I would be working at a particle accelerator, but didn’t want to be dependent on government funding. (paraphrased)

19:00 — Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy is a great book on philosophy. He decided that sustainable energy and making life multi-planetary were the best ways to extend human consciousness.

20:20 — 5 things that change everything!

#1 The Internet is like the nervous system of the world

#2 Multi-planetary

#3 Changing genetics using CRISPR

#4 Artificial Intelligence

#5 Sustainable energy — originally, he favored this because he thought we would run out of fossil fuels. Later he realized the damage we are doing by burning fossil fuels and that we need to move even before we run out.

26:20 — Since you were rich in 2002, why start SpaceX and Tesla? Elon said he started along this route by working on capacitors for EVs. He was trying to use semiconductor equipment to make really precise capacitors like an x86 chip, riding on the coattails of massive investment in that space. Turned out this was unnecessary since lithium batteries have advanced so much.

30:30 — Maxwell is a big deal. Elon hints at cost reductions coming, which will be explained at the coming battery day in a few months.

32:00 — Other car companies are not making batteries, modules, or packs.

33:00 — Can’t believe we haven’t converted all cars to EVs nor gone back to the moon yet.

34:30 — Big companies resist change, only change 5% at the most.

35:30 — China Gigafactory for 3 reasons:

#1 China is world’s largest market

#2 Tariffs

#3 Local talent

36:40 — How did Tesla become the first wholly owned foreign car manufacturer in China? Elon says they talked them into changing the law.

38:30 — Why is Gigafactory 3 so cheap to build?

#1 Tesla is way less dumb.

#2 Suppliers are more efficient.

#3 Hundreds of little things.

#4 Model 3 body line is much simpler.

41:30 — Personal life stuff, and Elon denied firing people without justification.

43:30 — Why America? Because that’s where technology was advancing.

45:00 — He lost all his clothing on a bus trip across Canada. Worked on a wheat farm for 6 weeks.

47:00 — Lumber mill job was hardest job he ever had. Was the highest paying job at the employment office — $18 hours. He did it for 4 days and task was done.

49:00 — A few months as a lumberjack, then went to Queen’s University for a couple years, then University of Pennsylvania, where he got a degree in physics and economics.

51:00 — Internet was about to take off, so he deferred his graduate degree and wrote Zip2.

52:00 — Only 1 computer for server and compiling code, so server would go down when he did a recompile. He lived in his office and showered at the YMCA.

53:00 — Silicon Valley/Sand Hill very skeptical of investing in software until Netscape.

53:45 — Couldn’t get a job at Netscape.

55:00 — Got $3 million for 60% of Zip2, which he thought was great money!

58:00 — “Yahoo seemed like an unstoppable juggernaut.”

58:30 — Kimball Musk arrived.

59:40 — Developed vector-based mapping software.

1:01:00 — Got first door-to-door directions from the internet using Java applets at age 22 and 23.

1:03:40 — How did you become expert coder? He had been coding since the age of 12.

1:06:00 — More discussion of living cheaply when they had no money and were developing Zip2.

1:07:00 — Eating at Jack-In-The-Box.

1:08:30 — “We were just trying to be able to stay in the country.”

1:10:00 — They had an old BMW 3 Series and drove it until a wheel fell off.

1:11:00 — Kimbal admits to being in the US illegally. Elon admits he was working while on a student visa.

1:13:00 — How Kimbal tricked the border patrol.

1:15:05 — “Yellow Pages will never die!” Kimbal thinks, “In my head, you are already dead.”

1:16:50 — Paypal

1:18:20 — At Zip2, we tried to partner with the existing industry, but they were too arrogant to listen to us.

1:21:00 — Why do Paypal? Wanted to do something on Internet that showed how technology can change the world but which didn’t take much bandwidth (since people are still using modems).

1:23:00 — Paypal should have continued to work on all financial things, but that is “water under the bridge.”

1:24:00 — Paypal had a dream team of talent that went on to do many great things as they started a bunch of companies.

1:25:00 — X.com and Confinity joined to form Paypal and raised $100 million one month before the dotcom bust of April 2000.

1:27:00 — How Paypal could have sucked all the money out of the world’s banks.

1:28:00 — Why did you leave PayPal? Elon wanted to take more risk than others were comfortable with.

1:30:00 — How do you find the courage to buck the system? “I try to be hyper rational.”

1:32:40 — Stripe is eating banking slowly.

1:33:00 — He is neutral on Bitcoin.

1:34:40 — It’s getting harder to use cash.

1:35:30 — “I think governments have too many laws.”

1:37:00 — Thinks direct democracy is less likely to become corrupt than a representative democracy.

1:38:30 — Laws are written by the industry groups that capture the government.

1:39:40 — Elon got malaria after a trip to South Africa and almost died.

1:43:00 — Why NASA wasn’t planning on going to Mars.

1:44:20 — The SpaceX idea was originally to sponsor philanthropic mission to Mars to put a small greenhouse on Mars.

1:45:30 — He went to Russia to buy ICBMs.

1:47:00 — Russians kept raising the price. “This is the pre-deal shafting.”

1:48:00 — Realized rockets have to be reusable to be cheap enough to build a city on Mars.

1:49:20 — Most of the rocket engineers were in LA, so he moved to LA.

1:50:30 — Couldn’t recruit people to SpaceX for a long time from Boeing or Lockheed, so he became chief engineer.

1:55:00 — Discusses the first launch failure.

1:57:00 — 2008 was a very difficult year since they had the 3rd launch failure, a round of Tesla financing collapsed, and he got divorced, but 2018 was worse.

1:59:00 — Elon describes the lunch where he was introduced to AC propulsion (which led to Tesla).

2:02:00 — He knew EVs could work with the increase in density that came with the 4× improvement that lithium-ion batteries offered over lead-acid batteries.

2:05:10 — “Eberhard is the worst guy I’ve ever worked with and I’ve worked with some real douchebags.”

2:07:40 — Making of the Roadster.

2:09:30 — The costs of the Roadster were twice what they said there were. He had to fire Eberhard.

2:11:40 — Elon tried really hard to not be CEO of Tesla (because he was busy with SpaceX).

2:14:00 — Spent $75,000 to buy the trademark of “Tesla Motors.” They then spent 10 years and $10 million to get Tesla.com.

2:15:50 — “He spent a lot of time on the Tesla and SpaceX fonts.”

I found Elon’s views on government most interesting, since I had heard many of the other stories before. Overall, there are many nuggets of info in this interview for fans and haters of Elon Musk alike.

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Poor Man’s Autopilot: Where Is The Outrage?

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Published on January 24th, 2020 |

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Poor Man’s Autopilot: Where Is The Outrage?

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In a video titled “Poor Man’s Autopilot,” the owner of an i3 with the ability to do self-parking and adaptive cruise control explains how to mimic Tesla’s Autopilot. To be honest, anyone who can afford an i3 isn’t really poor. The 2020 BMW i3 starts at $44,450 — you could have an actual Tesla for that price with real Autopilot.

The video shows you exactly how to rig an i3 up to drive on “autopilot,” and the user points out that, “If you’re not comfortable doing this, find a local BMW shop to do this for you.” This is one of quite a few of these types of videos.

So, how safe is this? First, I don’t think anyone has the advanced technology Tesla has when it comes to semi-autonomous driving abilities. Otherwise, there’d be a lot more enthusiasm about their products.

I mean, if we could make all these vehicles self-driving, that would be great, but I just wanted to ask a question: Where is Senator Markey’s outrage? Where’s the outrage from Tesla haters on Twitter who are always looking for something to be outraged about?

I mean, if they can do this safely, pay attention to their surroundings, and not get into accidents, I’m fine with it personally — but the bias against Tesla whenever a Tesla driver does something like this has to be addressed.

You can’t demand Tesla shut down Autopilot and then look the other away when owners of other car brands have “how-to” videos on hacking their cruise control and their cars turning into “autonomous vehicles.”

Senator Markey probably hasn’t seen this, but he should see it, and then should consider if his position against Tesla Autopilot isn’t biased.

In another “how-to” video, BingH0st, a verified YouTube channel with 150,000 subscribers, shows you how to “trick the active lane assist of an Audi A6” with a bottle of water and adaptive cruise control to get “a self-driving car.” Unlike Tesla’s Autopilot, this will not warn you when it needs you to take over. You’ll just crash if you’re not paying attention.

In a video titled “Self driving car/ life hack active lane assist,” a YouTuber uploads another “how-to” video to trick the active lane assist of a Volkswagen Tiguan with a bottle of water. And in this video, which has had almost 550,000 views, the YouTuber uses what looks like an energy drink to make their 2014 Mercedes S-Class into an “autonomous driving” vehicle. Where is the outrage?

While Senator Markey thinks that Tesla’s Autopilot should be disabled, he has been silent when it comes to these other guys doing the same thing with less advanced tech that wasn’t made for the same level autonomous driving.

Then we have Nissan marketing it’s ProPILOT Assist in a Star Wars–themed ad. Rey closes her eyes and drives through a construction zone.

The idea of a “poor man’s Autopilot” makes it seem like Tesla is the most expensive of these vehicles, yet all of these vehicles in these “how-to” videos are either equal to or higher in price than a Tesla, so the idea of poor man’s Autopilot is highly deceptive.

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Former Ford CEO On Tesla’s “Iconic Brand”

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Former Ford CEO On Tesla’s “Iconic Brand”

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Former Ford CEO Mark Fields had some things to say about Tesla this week. In what may be a surprise to some, Fields says that EVs are the future of the industry and the questions are: when is the payoff, and what are the adoption rates? He says that, if you look at all that Tesla has done, “they have really created a very — kind of — iconic brand for electrification.”

He also says, “[Elon’s] done a very good job with his organization in creating an aspirational brand for electric vehicles,” Fields also points out that Tesla is beyond “just an automotive maker” and cites that Tesla has solar and energy storage businesses under its wings. He thinks that all of this mixed in with the production in Shanghai and the new factory being built in Germany is something that investors are getting excited about.

“The question is,” Fields says in the video, “will there be natural demand to get mass adoption? And Tesla’s done a really good job on early adopters and creating that brand.” When asked about if people are buying Teslas because of the brand or because they are EVs, Fields says that, “if you talk to the customers, they are buying it because of the brand.” He points out what the majority of Tesla owners love about the vehicles: they are cool, stylish, and they help the environment since they do not emit carbon. Fields also talks about something that isn’t really talked about regarding Tesla, and that’s the software aspect of the vehicles. “They have a big advantage over the traditional OEMs,” he says.

It’s good to see a former Ford CEO pointing out that EVs are the future of the industry and sharing that Tesla has turned itself into an iconic brand leading the industry. What isn’t mentioned is Tesla’s factory-direct business model. There are no dealers or middle men to worry about, and this is a definite pro for those who hate negotiating. If I know something is worth a X dollars, I don’t want to have to argue over the price with someone in the middle who wants to profit off of me. Another thing Tesla has in its favor is the fact that it has limited model lineup options available, which makes the entire process streamlined and more efficient.

Right now, Tesla has seven variations of vehicles. In comparison, the Porsche 911 model has at least 20 variations of one model. Sometimes, when you have too many choices of one thing, it becomes boring. I’ve seen this in my own gem/jewelry business — people love variety but in the right amount.

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Published on January 4th, 2020 |

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Tesla Powerwall 2 Update — Nearly 2 Years Later

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January 4th, 2020 by Bob Borsh

Greetings from Vermont on New Year’s Day 2020 (at time of writing). Looking back into my archived articles here on CleanTechnica, it appears I have not had anything published since November 20, 2018. My first article regarding our rooftop solar + Tesla Powerwall 2 system was published on April 21, 2018.

A lot has happened in the last year, most notably that I took a new position as a travelling Construction Manager. My wife and I had decided that with the children now adults out on their own and her full retirement from the daily grind scheduled for March 2019, what better way to spend the latter part of my professional career than travelling the country supervising the installation and commissioning of food processing plants.

My travels in 2019 took me first to Honolulu, Hawaii (real tough duty for a New Englander in January and part of February), and then to downtown Chicago, where I participated in the building of the largest Starbucks in the world. There were long days and weeks and months needed to complete the build on time for a November 15 grand opening, but it was definitely the most interesting project I was ever involved in. I was able to walk to work for 9 months for the first time in my 40-year career. So, there was no need to have a car or even entertain driving myself anywhere in the area — a definite way to work towards net zero energy consumption. We used public transportation exclusively during our stay there. We had no way of calculating our kWh apartment usage since our place included utilities.

The “bad” news is my 2016 Tesla Model S was a 6000 lb paperweight for the duration. We returned home on November 24 and have been here for the month of December for the holidays. As I write this, I am awaiting to hear when and where we will be headed next.

The main purpose of this article that I wanted to share with the CleanTechnica community is the fact that the electrical energy use at our home in Vermont, although fully occupied by a friend for the duration of our absence, had net positive generation for the calendar year. See the attached screenshot from the Tesla app as well as the monthly spreadsheet at the bottom. Would that have been possible had I been charging the Model S for my former daily 200-mile round trip commute, as I was doing May through October 2018? Possibly, seeing that our generation and power returned to the grid far outpaced our usage.

The other aspect of our solar installation plus one Powerwall 2 is the seamless and worry-free operation of backup power system for the home should a grid outage occur. As shown, we’ve had a total of 72 such events and 28 backup hours since going online in early April 2018. Some of those have been as little as a few minutes while others have been up to several hours in one 24-hour period.

Some of you who have read my other articles may remember my rationale for adding solar to our home. In my opinion, regardless if you are staying long term in your home or not, a solar installation is still a good idea. Especially how much costs have come down and the fact that many utilities provide programs to help offset the costs.

Since the average American moves 11 times in their lifetime, odds are you will not see a full payback on your investment while living in that home. To be perfectly honest, after living in downtown Chicago for the better part of 2019, my wife and I have entertained the idea of living in an urban environment in the future once again. However, that does not mean looking back we wouldn’t have installed our system or purchased an electric vehicle. Resale values should be good on all of these products.

I look forward to your comments and observations going forward. I have yet to receive my new assignment for 2020, so we are home at least through the first week of the year, and then, who knows? I do intend to drive and use the Model S on my next assignment, so I hope to be writing more articles about where we are, solar installations, EV involvement, etc. Happy New Year to all!

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