Subaru and Toyota plan joint electric SUVs on flexible platform

What comes next after a partnership for sports cars? Potentially one for an electric SUV.

That's the latest plan from Toyota and Subaru, according to a joint statement from the automakers on Thursday.

The new joint project will develop a new electric mid-size SUV using electric-car technology from Toyota and all-wheel drive technology from Subaru, the companies said.

Toyota owns 16 percent of Subaru, and the two companies built a partnership to develop the joint Subaru BRZ and Toyota 86 (formerly Scion FR-S) sports cars, though that project was reportedly fraught with disagreements over the powertrain. Since then, Toyota also shared the plug-in hybrid technology from its Prius Prime (and portions from the RAV4 Hybrid) with Subaru as a starting point for the 2019 Subaru Crosstrek Hybrid.

Both companies' product lineups, however, conspicuously lack any all-electric models.

Toyota-Subaru electric vehicle platform

In 2017, Toyota also formed a joint venture with Mazda, along with Japanese parts supplier Denso, to jointly develop components and a platform for electric cars. That partnership is expected to result in a new electric model from Mazda for 2020, likely with a short range and an optional available gasoline range extender, which could be a tiny rotary engine.

The new project will result in a joint platform (similar to the BRZ/86 project), that will underpin new mid-size electric SUV models from both automakers. In the joint statement, Subaru and Toyota said the platform will also be flexible enough to build future models including mid-size and large SUVs and sedans and “derivative models.”

In a related statement, Subaru said it will now shift its independent EV development resources to this joint project.

“The automotive industry is in the midst of a once-in-a-century period of profound transformation,” the companies said. “The commercialization of BEVs requires the use of large-capacity batteries, and, along with the popularization of BEVs, demands of a new dimension will be placed on battery supply.”

The agreement could represent a minor breakthrough in Toyota's approach to electric vehicles. Until now, the company has focused on its hybrid technology to the exclusion of developing EVs, and has publicly questioned consumer demand for electric cars and their viability.

With regulations around the world beginning to require emissions reductions that gas engines alone can't meet, however, the company needs a strategy to sell EVs and procure large battery supplies.

Perhaps Subaru's earthy customers can provide a bigger initial market for that technology.

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The Zotye Auto debut at Shanghai auto showH/O: Zotye AutoWhen Guangzhou-based GAC Group rolled out a concept vehicle at the North American International Auto Show last January it was just the latest among a procession of Chinese automakers laying out plans to enter the American car market.
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With a name that few Americans will likely know how to pronounce — it's Zoh-tee, not Zot-yee — a small budget and even less brand equity than bigger Chinese brands like BYD, Geely or Great Wall, there are plenty of skeptics. Americans “have a bad perception of Chinese vehicles, overall” cautioned Augusto Amorim, a senior analyst with LMC Automotive. And Zotye is particularly unknown, he said.
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The list includes such things as “processes,” as well as “product.” The first model expected to enter Zotye's U.S. line-up debuted barely a month ago at Auto Shanghai. The T600 is a compact crossover that will be aimed at the likes of the Toyota RAV4 and Honda CR-V. It will be followed in 2022 by the midsize T700 crossover and, about a year later, by a three-row model.
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“Think in terms of 20% less than the targeted competition,” notably including the likes of Hyundai, Kia and Toyota, Hale said over dinner with journalists at the Detroit Renaissance Center on Thursday night.
That's an even bigger discount than Hyundai offered buyers when it came to the U.S. market 30 years ago — and with a name that was equally baffling to American consumers. And it would come at a decidedly opportune time, industry officials like Joe Hinrichs, Ford's president of automotive operations, have openly worried about the rising cost of today's new vehicles. The average sticker price of a new car hit a record $34,000 at the beginning of the year, according to data compiled by industry research company LMC Automotive.
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Jan Thompson, a former marketing executive with Mazda and Toyota who's now handling that role for Zotye, believes the Chinese brand's primary buyers will be young shoppers who don't want to buy a used car. But with an estimated 42 million used vehicles sold in 2019, nearly three times more than new, customers could come from every market demographic, she said.
2019 Honda CRV with camper tent accessories.Adam Jeffery | CNBC “I tell my neighbors in Tennessee I'm going to sell a Chinese car and they all say they're not interested,” she said. “Then I tell them the price and they all ask where they can sign up.”
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Hale's HAAH Automotive Holdings negotiated a deal to import and distribute Zotye's products in the U.S., a plan the Chinese carmaker was more than glad to accept, he said, considering it currently has capacity to build 1.2 million vehicles annually but only sold about 400,000 last year.
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